This Orbi Mesh Wifi 6 system is the sweet spot for me when it comes to cost and performance. It is more expensive than say the Google Nest Pro Wifi and Eero Wifi systems, but is not quite as expensive as other 6e or Orbi 7 systems.
The performance is absolutely stellar! The antennas packed into them are very strong. The setup was a breeze. And THEY WORKED FOR MY CENTURYLINK FIBER! The last point is a godsend as other routers have issues with Centurylink Fiber as it requires VLAN Tagging to get to communicate properly with the ONT. It was simple, but also a little tricky on getting the settings configured in the correct order so that the router stays connected while everything got changed over, but once it did it really took off!
Signal strength is great. The satellite is absolutely great as well. I now have an extremely consistent and fast connection all throughout my home! Better yet it has 3 LAN ports on both the Router and Satellite to connect all of my devices that I don't need wireless!
Absolutely blown away by this system and I'm glad that I decided to test it out.
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Netgear Orbi Whole Home Tri-band Mesh WiFi 6 System (RBK852) Router with 1 Satellite Extender | Coverage up to 5,000 sq. ft. and 100+ Devices | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps) (Renewed) $384.99 & FREE Shipping
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| connectivity tech | Wi-Fi, Ethernet | Wi Fi | Wi-Fi | Wi-Fi, Ethernet | Wi-Fi, Ethernet | Wi-Fi, Ethernet |
| number of ports | 5 | — | — | — | 6 | 9 |
| data transfer rate | — | — | 6 gigabits per second | — | 10 gigabits per second | 5400 megabits per second |
| wireless standard | 802 11 A, 802 11 N, 802 11 AC | — | 802 11 AX | 802 11 AX | 802 11 AX | 802 11 AX, 802 11 AC, 802 11 N, 802 11 G, 802 11 B |
| frequency band class | tri band | tri band | tri band | tri band | quad band | tri band |
| lan port bandwidth | 10/100 megabits per second | — | — | 5 ghz | 10 Gigabit Ethernet | 10/100/1000 Mbps |
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| Price | $249.99 | $305.08 | $429.99 | $799.99 | $599.99 | $1,099.99 |
| Configuration | 1 Satellite | 1 Router + 1 Satellite | 1 Satellite | 1 Router + 1 Satellite | 1 Satellite | 1 Router + 1 Satellite |
| WiFi Technology | WiFi 6 | WiFi 6 | WiFi 6 | WiFi 6 | WiFi 6E | WiFi 6E |
| WiFi Speed | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps) | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps) | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps) | AX6000 (Up to 6Gbps) | AXE11000 (Up to 10.8Gbps) | AXE11000 (Up to 10.8Gbps) |
| WiFi Coverage | Adds an additional 2,500 sq. ft. | Up to 5,000 sq. ft | Adds an additional 2,700 sq. ft. | Up to 5,400 sq. ft. | Adds an additional 3,000 sq. ft. | Up to 6,000 sq. ft |
| Bands | Tri-Band | Tri-Band | Tri-Band | Tri-Band | Quad-band | Quad-band |
| # of Devices | 100 | 100 | Up to 100 | Up to 100 | Up to 200 | Up to 200 |
| Best for Internet Provider Speed Tier | Up to 2.5Gbps | Up to 2.5Gbps | Up to 10Gbps | Up to 10Gbps | Up to 10Gbps | Up to 10Gbps |
| Wired Gigabit Ethernet Ports (Router + Satellites) | 4 | 8 (4 + 4) | 4 x 1G | 1 x 10G + 8 x 1G (4 + 4 ) | 1 x 2.5G + 3 x 1G | 1 x 10G + 2 x 2.5 (1 + 1) + 6 x 1G (3 + 3) |
| NETGEAR Armor All-in-One Internet Security | 30-day free trial | 1-year included | 30-day free trial |
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Update — Orbi not perfect, but Spectrum mostly to blame for my previous issues
UPDATE 8/26/21 — I know a lot of people report firmware problems with the Orbi, and it seemed like what I was experiencing was exactly what they described. However, I eventually tried the Eero Pro 6 mesh instead which did NOT fix the problem, nor did another standalone router. I assumed I was having router problems, because my Spectrum modem was NOT showing that it was off-line when the router was going out. A spectrum technician eventually figured out that I was having upload failures due to overuse of the nearby node, and I also had a slightly faulty line to my house (squirrel damage). Because I was never fully losing the download component, but my upload speed was bogging down to almost 0, the Spectrum modem kept showing online but the router could detect there was a problem so it would show off-line. If I rebooted either the modem or the router, it seemed to fix my problem temporarily, which was weird, but I was having to reset some piece of equipment about 5-10 times every day. I had spectrum drop a new line from the pole to my house, which has partly resolved my problem, but my specific issue will continue until they build out their network better in my suburban area. The Orbi does not seem to get the advertised speeds once you get 20-30 feet from a unit (drops from 900 to 450ish), but it had better speeds compared to the Eero Pro 6 by a large margin (600 near router, 150 farther away).DO NOT BUY! This thing has been a monstrous pain, which is super annoying because I paid almost $1000 for the three pack (router plus 2 satellites) and it has been consistently unstable. I’ve spent dozens of hours messing with this thing and reading forums since I got it in April, and it just will not hold a stable connection. I have Spectrum gigabit Internet service which is blazing fast, and I test in the 600-900+ Mbps download speed range depending on time of day. The Orby does disseminate the Wi-Fi signal across my old house and through plaster walls and what not, with every part of my house getting at least 200 Mbps. HOWEVER, the stupid Orbi loses the connection 3-5 times per day, or more, where I can see on my modem that my Internet is stably connected but the Orbi has the magenta light and my wifi is down. This is a HUGE problem because it cuts off my computer when I’m doing work, and cuts off all my Ring cameras if I’m not home and I can’t be around to reset the router. I’m currently using all the standard settings on the Orbi, but I have tried just about every trick I can find on every forum from Google some point or another, and nothing fixes the problem. It’s not like I’m some idiot, I’m a reasonably tech savvy physician in my 30s that ought to be able to troubleshoot the stuff, but you have to be an IT engineer or something to fix this. A quick Google search will show you that there are MANY people having this problem, and there is basically no suggested fix. NETGEAR needs to fix this with a firmware update, no excuses. Seems the issue has something to do with bad DHCP protocols, inability to have separate SSID for 2.4/5 GHz channels (Which people actually figured out how to work around, then Netgear did a firmware update to purposely block the workaround!), terrible firmware updates since 12/2019 that have only worsened matters, etc. and that should NOT be the end-user’s problem. Honestly I’m nauseated but I wasted the money and it has been such a bad product. It makes me sick, I’ll probably eventually buy a Google nest, because although I wanted the speed that Orbi promised, NETGEAR failed with this one bigtime.
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Reviewed in the United States on January 28, 2020
- Speed, speed, speed. Best WiFi speeds I've ever experienced, I routinely hit peaks at 800MBps+ (see pic) => +5 stars
Cons:
- Web interface is excruciatingly slow, counter-intuitive and cumbersome. The previous Orbi generation web interface was already pretty bad, but this is worse, the new Orbi supposedly comes with a much snappier CPU and should run the webserver a lot faster, but it doesn't. To add insult to injury, Netgear removed a ton of options readily available in the Orbi first generation => -1 star
- Security is not implemented well, the thing leaks like a sieve (see picture, you absolutely don't want the blue squares). I would caution against connecting the router directly to your provider's WAN, you might want to leave a gateway or a cheap yet capable router in the way. That's using the latest firmware available (V3.2.9.2_1.2.4), and with the firewall settings on ("Disable Port Scan and DoS Protection" is off, it makes no difference on or off anyway, I tried both) => -2 stars
I own the previous generation of Orbi router/satellites, they are far from perfect, but they are rock solid and reliable when it comes to security. This new product was obviously rushed to market, and consumers are essentially being used as beta testers. Given the amount of similar reviews all over the interwebs, I'm surprised Netgear is not stepping up, the firmware in its current state is either going to lead to extremely negative headlines when someone manages to exploit the security holes on the WAN side, or to a class action lawsuit for selling an unfinished product and not implementing what their website says they did. Netgear keeps saying here in the comments they provide high security and point to their website security "good practices", but they haven't even implemented the first "security measure" listed on their site.
I'll come back and update my review as they make progress, in the meantime, I'm putting my RBR850 behind an el-cheapo router with a standard firewall stack (it doesn't take much effort to implement, but I guess it's too much to ask from Netgear for now). This is disappointing to say the least, especially when you have to drop a grand to get a router and 2 satellites.
*** 2/24/2020 update ***
I did submit a case on the Netgear support website (per their request in the comments), and also pointed out the security issues on their forum. No peep from Netgear, so that's another star that's gone. Some forum users acknowledged they saw similar issues with the built-in firewall, but Netgear reps never took the time to look/respond at the forum either. I gave up and bought an Edgerouter 4 from Ubiquiti and switched the Orbi to AP mode (access point only). The Edgerouter proved to be rock solid and secure, though if you plan to make a similar move, make sure to triple-check your firewall rules on he router before you make the switch. It's unfortunate I had to spend another $200 to get basic security that was available in the previous Orbi generation. One positive note: the guest network in AP mode still works, it has its own subnet and dhcp, I was actually surprised moving to AP mode didn't screw that up (one can argue since guest devices are on a different subnet with its own dhcp, they're effectively being route, so it's not true AP mode for them, but that's the way it should be designed to keep the guest network isolated).
*** 3/1/2020 update ***
I keep finding new bugs on a regular basis. Latest one: if you plan to use the router in AP mode and plan to use a fixed IP address for the router instead of DHCP, the router will not connect to NTP servers to get the correct time, even if you try to use a third party server and not Netgear’s. Why does it matter? Many devices will not properly connect to WiFi guest due to the fact that the guest network has its own DHCP server (it’s on its own VLAN), I suspect the leases are out of whack due to the time discrepancy between the router and the devices.
*** 3/18/2020 update ***
Netgear pushed a broken firmware last week and essentially bricked many Orbi's in the process. See Netgear forums, lots of unhappy users over there. We're well into negative stars territory at this point.
*** 4/1/2020 update ***
Well, I really gave it the old college try, but I eventually gave up and put the thing for sale on fleabay. The hardware is great, but the software is simply not mature enough, and I have better things to do than debug the damn thing on behalf of Netgear. I switched to the Amplifi Alien and things have been rock solid since then. YMMV.
Style: WiFi 6Size: 3-PackVerified Purchase
Really fast, but far from being ready for prime time
Reviewed in the United States on January 28, 2020
Pros:Reviewed in the United States on January 28, 2020
- Speed, speed, speed. Best WiFi speeds I've ever experienced, I routinely hit peaks at 800MBps+ (see pic) => +5 stars
Cons:
- Web interface is excruciatingly slow, counter-intuitive and cumbersome. The previous Orbi generation web interface was already pretty bad, but this is worse, the new Orbi supposedly comes with a much snappier CPU and should run the webserver a lot faster, but it doesn't. To add insult to injury, Netgear removed a ton of options readily available in the Orbi first generation => -1 star
- Security is not implemented well, the thing leaks like a sieve (see picture, you absolutely don't want the blue squares). I would caution against connecting the router directly to your provider's WAN, you might want to leave a gateway or a cheap yet capable router in the way. That's using the latest firmware available (V3.2.9.2_1.2.4), and with the firewall settings on ("Disable Port Scan and DoS Protection" is off, it makes no difference on or off anyway, I tried both) => -2 stars
I own the previous generation of Orbi router/satellites, they are far from perfect, but they are rock solid and reliable when it comes to security. This new product was obviously rushed to market, and consumers are essentially being used as beta testers. Given the amount of similar reviews all over the interwebs, I'm surprised Netgear is not stepping up, the firmware in its current state is either going to lead to extremely negative headlines when someone manages to exploit the security holes on the WAN side, or to a class action lawsuit for selling an unfinished product and not implementing what their website says they did. Netgear keeps saying here in the comments they provide high security and point to their website security "good practices", but they haven't even implemented the first "security measure" listed on their site.
I'll come back and update my review as they make progress, in the meantime, I'm putting my RBR850 behind an el-cheapo router with a standard firewall stack (it doesn't take much effort to implement, but I guess it's too much to ask from Netgear for now). This is disappointing to say the least, especially when you have to drop a grand to get a router and 2 satellites.
*** 2/24/2020 update ***
I did submit a case on the Netgear support website (per their request in the comments), and also pointed out the security issues on their forum. No peep from Netgear, so that's another star that's gone. Some forum users acknowledged they saw similar issues with the built-in firewall, but Netgear reps never took the time to look/respond at the forum either. I gave up and bought an Edgerouter 4 from Ubiquiti and switched the Orbi to AP mode (access point only). The Edgerouter proved to be rock solid and secure, though if you plan to make a similar move, make sure to triple-check your firewall rules on he router before you make the switch. It's unfortunate I had to spend another $200 to get basic security that was available in the previous Orbi generation. One positive note: the guest network in AP mode still works, it has its own subnet and dhcp, I was actually surprised moving to AP mode didn't screw that up (one can argue since guest devices are on a different subnet with its own dhcp, they're effectively being route, so it's not true AP mode for them, but that's the way it should be designed to keep the guest network isolated).
*** 3/1/2020 update ***
I keep finding new bugs on a regular basis. Latest one: if you plan to use the router in AP mode and plan to use a fixed IP address for the router instead of DHCP, the router will not connect to NTP servers to get the correct time, even if you try to use a third party server and not Netgear’s. Why does it matter? Many devices will not properly connect to WiFi guest due to the fact that the guest network has its own DHCP server (it’s on its own VLAN), I suspect the leases are out of whack due to the time discrepancy between the router and the devices.
*** 3/18/2020 update ***
Netgear pushed a broken firmware last week and essentially bricked many Orbi's in the process. See Netgear forums, lots of unhappy users over there. We're well into negative stars territory at this point.
*** 4/1/2020 update ***
Well, I really gave it the old college try, but I eventually gave up and put the thing for sale on fleabay. The hardware is great, but the software is simply not mature enough, and I have better things to do than debug the damn thing on behalf of Netgear. I switched to the Amplifi Alien and things have been rock solid since then. YMMV.
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