Fostex T50RPMK3 Professional Studio Headphones
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Brand | Fostex |
Model Name | T50RP MK3 |
Color | Black |
Form Factor | Over Ear |
Connectivity Technology | Wired |
About this item
- SHARP AUDIO: Sharp audio and monitoring accuracy for professional studio recording or monitoring applications.
- MULTI-CABLES: Includes a 3 meter 1/4-inch plug detachable cable and 1.2m mini plug cable for portable audio use.
- EXCLUSIVE DRIVER: Fostex proprietary Regular Phase (RP) diaphragm driver uses copper foil etched polyimide film and powerful neodymium magnet.
- SEMI-OPEN: Maximum input level of 3000mW and semi-open style delivers flat and clear sound.
- REDESIGNED COMFORT: Newly developed low repulsion ear and head pads allow for extended wearing comfort.
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Sound quality | 4.5 | 5.0 | 4.0 | 4.6 | 4.4 | — |
Quality of material | 4.2 | — | 4.4 | 3.7 | 4.0 | — |
Comfort | 3.7 | — | 5.0 | 4.0 | 4.4 | — |
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connectivity tech | Wired | Wired | Wired | Wired | Wired | Wired |
headphones form factor | Over Ear | Over Ear | Over Ear | Over Ear | — | Over Ear |
connector type | — | 3.5mm Jack | 6.35mm Jack, 3.5mm Jack | 3.5mm Jack | 6.35mm Jack | 3.5mm Jack |
headphones jack | 3.5 mm Jack | 3.5 mm Jack | 3.5 mm Jack | 3.5 mm Jack | 3.5 mm Jack | — |
cable feature | Detachable | Detachable | Detachable | Detachable | Detachable | Retractable |
material | Copper | Aluminum | Wood | Plastic | — | Aluminum, Stainless Steel |
model name | T50RP MK3 | FiiO FT3 | SUNDARA Closed-Back | Edition XS | HE400SE | — |
weight | 0.71 pounds | 13.79 ounces | 432 grams | 14.28 ounces | 390 grams | 0.01 pounds |
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Product information
Item Weight | 11.4 ounces |
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Product Dimensions | 7.68 x 4.13 x 7.09 inches |
Country of Origin | China |
ASIN | B0167XM092 |
Item model number | AMS-T50RPMK3 |
Customer Reviews |
4.4 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #124,551 in Electronics (See Top 100 in Electronics) #2,960 in Over-Ear Headphones |
Is Discontinued By Manufacturer | No |
Date First Available | October 6, 2015 |
Color Name | Black |
Material Type | Copper |
Size | T50RP |
Color Screen | No |
Processor Count | 4 |
Item Weight | 0.71 Pounds |
Units | 1.0 Count |
Number Of Items | 1 |
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Product Description
The Fostex RPmk3 series headphones are successors to the reputed RPmk2 series that have been used as reliable monitor headphones in many professional recording studios for more than 30 years. The driver unit incorporating the key Fostex proprietary Regular Phase (RP) Technology diaphragm has been refined to achieve sharper audio reproduction for more accurate monitoring. The housing, ear pads and head pad have also been redesigned to derive the maximum performance of the RP driver. Founded in 1973, Fostex is an acclaimed manufacturer of location sound, multi track recording, and speaker products.
From the manufacturer
- Redesigned low repulsion ear pad and head pad for maximum comfort
- Detachable cable for best serviceability
- 3.5mm stereo mini jack cable also included for portable audio player
RP-Series Professional Headphones
The Fostex RPmk3 series headphones are successors to the renowned RPmk2 series, which for more than 30 years (including from the start of the T-series) has been used as reliable monitor headphones by professional recording studios across the globe. The unique planar-magnetic (also known as orthodynamic) driver unit incorporates Fostex's proprietary Regular Phase (RP) Technology diaphragm, which is delicately refined to achieve sharper audio reproduction for more accurate monitoring. The housing, ear pads, and head pad have also been redesigned both to derive the maximum performance of the RP driver, and provide maximum comfort for the listener.
- Refined Fostex proprietary Regular Phase (RP) diaphragm driver using copper foil etched polyimide film and powerful neodymium magnet
- The maximum input level of 3000mW to complies with various professional uses
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Sound Characteristics | Open for 'Deep Bass' | Closed for 'Focused Bass' | Semi-Open for 'Flat and Clear' Sound |
Driver | Regular Phase (or Orthodynamic) | Regular Phase (or Orthodynamic) | Regular Phase (or Orthodynamic) |
Impedance | 50 ohm | 50 ohm | 50 ohm |
Sensitivity | 91dB (at 1kHz, 1mW) | 92dB (at 1kHz, 1mW) | |
Frequency Response | 15Hz – 35kHz | 20Hz – 35kHz | 15Hz – 35kHz |
Maximum Input Power | 3000mW | 3000mW | 3000mW |
Weight | 315g | 315g | 315g |
Cable | Detachable 1/4" Stereo Phone (3m) and Stereo Mini (1.2m) | Detachable 1/4" Stereo Phone (3m) and Stereo Mini (1.2m) | Detachable 1/4" Stereo Phone (3m) and Stereo Mini (1.2m) |
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Customers like the quality, value, and detail level of the headphones. They mention that they have deep, smooth bass, excellent mids, and highs. They also appreciate performance. That said, some complain about the cable length and differ on sound quality, comfort, and weight.
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Customers like the quality of the headphones. They say that they have deep, smooth bass, excellent mids, and highs. They also mention that the build quality is pretty decent. Some customers say that the stock headband is okay, but it starts to make a hot spot on the top of the headphone. Overall, customers are satisfied with the quality and performance of the product.
"...The cups are a soft padding that seem comfortable enough and the clamp force is just a tad tight for preference but I’m sure would easily break-..." Read more
"...For comparison:-HD600: Best midrange. Has similar, but leaner bass presence, very small to no soundstage and is not as clear...." Read more
"...Seriously. I've never heard anything as precise, textured, balanced, and accurate as these for less than $300. Everything just sounds right...." Read more
"Firstly, I have to say that these are, on their own, amazing headphones, but just like all other headphones, they have their shortcomings..." Read more
Customers like the value of the headphones. They say it's well worth the investment, the drivers are phenomenal, and the sound quality is amazing for the price. Customers also mention that the headphones are built pretty well, making them feel more premium. They are forgiving enough to be on your head for hours, and exciting enough to play games.
"Great value for the money - once you replace the ear pads!**..." Read more
"...They are very well built, light weight, and so far I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time...." Read more
"...So, would I recommend these, sure, they are not bad for the price. HOWEVER, you will need a strong amplifier to power these...." Read more
"...In the end, the quality seems nice, they’re stylish, but if the headband on the HD 280 Pro doesn’t bother you, they’re a better option if build..." Read more
Customers like the detail level of the headphones. They say it has great clarity, crystal clear, and crisp highs. They also say the headphones capture a lot of nuance that gets lost in other non-planar drivers. Customers also mention that the headphones are very competent in detail and separation.
"...Are they as silky smooth and transparent as I hoped? Did they make me fall in love with my music all over again? Well, the answer is yes and no...." Read more
"...It needs USB power to operate.The bass is punchy and deep, the mids are very clear, and the high range sounds are..." Read more
"...less soundstage than you'd expect from an open, but very competent detail and separation...." Read more
"...beats and Sol and these blow away all of them in clarity,soundstage,imagining and bass is very good maybe not as much as some others(maybe)that I..." Read more
Customers like the performance of the headphones. They say it works well enough without an amp, and has stellar performance. They are usable, but not overly comfortable. They play well through unamped devices, but an amp makes them bloom a little fuller. They're a function first headphone, with great impact and bass/mid response. Customers say it has so much potential if you modify it right.
"...virtue of psychoacoustic adjustment (read: it's all in your head), they work well and the bass doesn't seem particularly bloated...." Read more
"...And these do both very, very, well. Amazingly well. Would I recommend these to gamers? Hell yes! Would I recommend these music lovers?..." Read more
"...But if you have a cheap headphone amplifier, they should come to life pretty well and get pretty loud...." Read more
"...The flat pads that come with the headphones were simply unusable for me...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the sound quality of the headphones. Some mention that the sound is amazing, has a deep bass, and a wide enough soundstage for good instrument separation. They say the music just came alive. However, others say that the quality is worse than their Sony MDR-7506 at twice the price, the mid bass is way too high, and the soundstage itself lacks a bit of seperation. They also say that they lack in sub-bass.
"...the Fostex has slightly brighter treble than the Sony, and solid bass with good impact, though it doesn't extend as far as the Z7; and the..." Read more
"...joke, that is how I felt about them Then I got these and now sounds are much clearer, highs are noticeable, and bass has power, but doesn't..." Read more
"These are really great headphones, for multiple reasons. They sound ‘pretty good’ straight out of the box without amplification, and without..." Read more
"...Everything just sounds right. The soundstage is wide enough for good instrument separation and deep enough for good imaging, though neither of these..." Read more
Customers have mixed opinions about the comfort of the headphones. Some mention that they're great, comfortable, and improve both the comfort and the soundstage. They say that it gives your head a nice hug. Others however, say that they are super flat and uncomfortable. They also say that the ear pads are thin and uncomfortable, and can hurt a little after a while.
"...FWIW, I think these earpads are as comfortable as the Dekoni hybrid pads that came on the Dekoni Blues...." Read more
"...The M50x was too unbalanced in the bass/midrange and only semi-comfy, V6 was too sharp in the treble for me and also has terrible pads...." Read more
"...They are very well built, light weight, and so far I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time...." Read more
"...The stock pads are terrible. They are super flat and uncomfortable but if you can only afford the headphones to start out, they are passable...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the weight of the headphones. Some mention that it's not too heavy, while others say that it is very frustrating to carry. The sound quality is good, and the headphones are fun with bass and beat heavy songs. However, some customers find the headphones to be bulky and heavy, making them frustrating to wear.
"...They are very well built, light weight, and so far I have no problem wearing them for long periods of time...." Read more
"...T50R's to shine, but you are stuck to a laptop as the SYMBA SONIC is not portable. It needs USB power to operate...." Read more
"...I have been excited to use my T50rp and they seem to do well for multiple genres of music...." Read more
"...I notice them but they are not fatiguing. I spent hours in them last night playing Fallout 4...." Read more
Customers are dissatisfied with the cable length of the headphones. They mention that the cable is pretty bad, has a terrible cable connector, and the connectivity of the cords is questionable. The supplied cables are of poor quality and provide intermittent connections. Customers also mention that they feel the stock cable feels very cheap and is short.
"...only gripes about the headphone are the pads, and the included cable could be a little better, but can easily be replaced with a good auxiliary cable..." Read more
"...Cable jack gets a lot of hate but the pair I have is tight and I cannot envision an issue unless you spent your time wearing it out...." Read more
"...The supplied cables are of poor quality and provide intermittent connections. The ear pads are thin and uncomfortable...." Read more
"...The cable is pretty bad on this - more specifically, where it attaches to the headphone...." Read more
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**Update: I've since obtained a set of Dekoni Blues (modded T50RPs), and between them I prefer the stock T50RP. The Dekonis do have more sub-bass, but the bass is boosted everywhere and seems a bit loose in comparison to the stock/un-modded T50RP. That said, I have used the Dekonis for a few hours straight where, possibly by virtue of psychoacoustic adjustment (read: it's all in your head), they work well and the bass doesn't seem particularly bloated. But I did not experience the same instant feeling of "I love these!" when I tried the Dekonis that I did with the stock T50RP. For reference, I had not been listening to the stock T50RP that day prior to unboxing and listening to the Dekoni, so my reaction wasn't based on a direct comparison. The Dekonis sound a lot more like the Audio-Technica ATH-M50X - I did a very brief comparison and they're not the same, but they have some similarities. Again, my point is to say that the stock T50RP sounds pretty good out of the box, at least as far as it suits my listening preferences.
Got these on a lark after reading & watching numerous write-ups/posts and videos about these and their modded progeny. As others have noted, the stock pads are not so great. Besides not providing a seal for your ear, they also allow your ear to touch the inner ear cup, something that leads to physical fatigue after a while in my experience. However, the $35 ear pads I got here on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07X1L287G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) resolved those two problems, and I find myself really enjoying these cans. FWIW, I think these earpads are as comfortable as the Dekoni hybrid pads that came on the Dekoni Blues.
Doing a direct comparison of the Fostex T50RP, Sony MDR-Z7M2, and Sennheiser HD 560S using Wye Oak's "Sick Talk" from the Shriek album and no EQ: the Sony has the best sub-bass extension and bass slam - but it can get a bit muddy too; the Fostex has slightly brighter treble than the Sony, and solid bass with good impact, though it doesn't extend as far as the Z7; and the Sennheiser sounds like the most neutral (flat) with somewhat airier soundstage, the brightest treble, and the least boosted bass - the treble is not overwhelming, nor is the bass lacking. Overall, I think the Fostex strikes the best balance on this track, based on my listening preferences, which probably explains why I have been having so much fun listening to these cans since I got them almost 2 weeks ago.
One caveat: As others have noted, you will need a decent amp to drive these as they're not terribly sensitive. I've mostly been using a Topping A50S, with the volume around 1 o'clock in low gain mode. For the 3 headphone comparison today, I used a Monoprice Monolith 887. For the Fostex, I set it to medium gain as the volume knob was almost maxed out in the low gain setting, whereas the Sony & Sennheiser were fine on low-gain.
In conclusion, I really like these headphones, and more than I thought I would. In fact, I don't even remember what I was expecting when I ordered them other than that I'd probably have to mod them a lot to make them sound good and I was willing to tinker. And I did tinker a bit: but with just a pad swap they are greatly improved over stock, and so much so that I don't want to take them apart. Now I really want to hear the Dekoni Blue & Modhouse Argon!
I'll start with music, the sweet, sweet music. There are two major factors in which govern how these headphones replicate sound: A) what power source you are using to power them B) source and type of the music you are listening to. You definitely hear the difference between plugging it in straight into your computer/phone (weak but clear) vs plugging it into and Amp/DAC or portable amp (powerful and defined). As far as the source of music, you can tell the difference between Pandora, YouTube, and digital audio file types, which I never did really appreciate until now. I owned all the Logitech and Astro headsets as well as a few surround type. Audio quality didn't matter so much because the computer volume coupled with the headphone/headset volume controller was enough to hear, what I thought, the quality of music, and the difference wasn't as noticeable. Now I find myself ripping my CD's and dumping my lesser quality digital files in favor of the higher quality types. Actually reading into HQ music and streaming. Why? Because these set of headphones will do that for you in spades, and that to me is the only downside. You get out what was put in. If the recording is blah that is what you'll hear. If recording is harsh, that is what you will hear. If the source of the power you're using is like they say: neutral, warm, high, low, syllabic, etc., THAT is what you'll hear. I can hear the difference between what I use at home and what I use on the go. And I have definitely become spoiled. For those that appreciate bass like me because I like bass in my music and gaming, explosions have bass, and so does music, I don't care what the audiophiles say, these phones can do bass too. But, bass also depends on the power and quality of the source. So if the file/stream and AMP can't provide that to you, then you won't get that. Want to tell the difference? Listen to a music video on YouTube. Now listen to that same music video in HQ. Now listen to in HQ bass boosted. You can tell the difference of bbbbbbbbass provided. And you will become spoiled even more. Goes from bloom-bloom, boom-boom, to BOOM-BOOM! You can tell if it's a bass drum, bass guitar, or synthesizer as well as the tone (frequency?) of that bass. I guess you can say that for every entire range, from highs to mids to lows. I owned a pair of Beats Studio wireless and it was great because it was wireless, had bass and music was decent at best. No joke, that is how I felt about them Then I got these and now sounds are much clearer, highs are noticeable, and bass has power, but doesn't overwhelm. The Cranberries get's me inspired, Taylor swift makes me sing along, 60's tracks are amazingly well preserved, Yellow Claw makes me want to go clubbing with the kids half my age (I won't), while Pachelbel Canon will make me day dream and feel cultured (Se7en library scene reference). By the way, Kanye can spit rhymes in one take, you can hear him take a breath between line, while Jay-Z cuts it after ever line. Now about that burn in period. I listened to them when I first got them and then after I had them playing 40+ hours of that burn in sounds, but I couldn't tell a difference. My theory on what happens is after a while of listening to headphones (or any type of sound providing equipment) is that your ears get used to it and it starts to sound pleasant to to you, like naturally with everything. The only way to know for sure which headphones, or sound equipment is better, is to have them all side by side, playing from the same power source, listening to the track. And most music shops don't have that, most normal users can't afford that, and most high end reviews can do that without bias and personal preference involved. So take that for what it's worth.
Now to gaming. YEAH BUDDY! Gaming is awesome, hands down. You won't find it an issue running any genre of game you play. FPS games, where footsteps and positioning matter, sound come out precise, front to back, and left to right. But it still doesn't sacrifice positioning for sound effects, ambiance, or the boom boom. Water laps upon the shore, the dirt sifts under your feet as you walk or run, gear shifts as you move, shells clank off the floor as you empty your clip, and explosions are loud and boom boom. Of course games have to be coded that way for you to appreciate these sounds, but for those who know, we know. You can estimate the distance and direction the enemy tank is coming, and still can hear the sound and direction enemy players that are flanking your position, all the while artillery is being dropped nearby. Fantasy games where music and ambiance matter, these phones really help set the mood and for you. Shoot, even League of Legends sound amazing, you can hear an enemy teleport incoming and from what bush. No joke. It still depends on the power that drives it (see the first paragraph so see my setup), so take the time and do your research on picking your Amp/DAC or even portable amp.
So the final part of this review, comparisons. Compared with all the other headphones and headsets I used for gaming and music, this is, by far the best yet. Not only because of the sound it will give you, but the price you pay. It performs way better than what you pay for. You may ask why charge so little when you get so much? I think it's because they feel they will sell them and make a profit and because they want to help you out because you will spend way on a good Amp/DAC. Thanks Fostex, good looking out! How do they compare to similar offerings or even to higher end gear? I couldn't tell you. What I can tell you is that I chose this because most phones I researched could offer you either good music or good gaming, not both. And these do both very, very, well. Amazingly well. Would I recommend these to gamers? Hell yes! Would I recommend these music lovers? Again, hell yes! Would I recommend these to movie lovers? Hell ye, wait I didn't even cover movies... I feel that movies is like music like gaming. You get out what you put in. You will, and can, tell the difference in recordings and between Blu-ray and DVD, from MKV to .mp4. That's how good these phones are. I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for a step from their current headphones. A taste of the high end audio life without the high end price. But you will pay the price for the power source. Oh yes, you will pay. But these are wurf. GG no RE.
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I'd recommend the Brainwavs sheepskin angled earpads as an additional purchase, which made a world of difference in not only comfort but also sound quality. These earpads are easy to swap and do not require any tools.
I will say that these headphones sound best with a powerful headphone amp since they employ a planar magnetic driver technology which is typically more power-hungry than traditional and much more common dynamic driver technology. I use a Schiit Asgard 3 amp which seems to be more than enough power (3 Watts), but only on the high gain setting. The low gain setting on this amp seems a bit "lifeless" and flat. The higher power/gain setting sounded more dynamic and controlled.
The sound is excellent! Very good bass response and a fairly flat response curve, which I prefer. The sound is clear without being sibilant. A flat response curve allows you to use them with any type of music and they will sound good. There are +5dB peaks at 100Hz and 4500Hz and a -5dB dip around 8,000 Hz that you can EQ out if you have the ability to do so in your playback software, then they sound just about perfect, to me. I think these headphones represent very good value for money.
Sin embargo, es muy importante usar EQ para aumentar las frecuencias por debajo de 100Hz, reducir un pico muy fuerte alrededor de 10Khz, y disminuir el brillo en general ya que son audífonos muy brillantes. Yo no los podría usar sin EQ, lo cual puede ser un problema dependiendo de cómo se vayan a usar.
La verdad me han funcionado para todos los géneros. Electrónica, bandas sonoras, rock, jazz, y música clásica.
I like all of them but T40RP would be my pick if I only could choose one of them.
Important information:
T20RP is open.
T40RP is closed.
T50RP is semi open.
Swedish amazon have mixed the models up.
If the order says T40RP you will get T40RP but the T40RP is closed and not open as it says on swedish amazon.
Just order the right T20RP if you want open headphones and T40RP if you want closed headphones and you will be OK.
I love these headphones. The planar magnetic element is excellent and the T40RP is the perfect rock/hardcore/metal headphone in my opinion.
It is studio quality sound and a very light and comfortable headphone.
The first days the headphone will clamp pretty hard on the head and it should but soon the headband will adjust to the size of your head and feel good. Just use the headphone normally and it will adjust.
The T40RP has a lovely detailed sound without being too detailed, it is just right for every music genre I throw at it!
Don't believe reviewers saying that the T40RP is the least favourable of the three because it is purely fantastic with just the right punch.
Other reviewers suck, trust me, I got taste and style and listen to all music styles!
The T40RP can be driven with a phone and it is much better than the T50RP with just the power from a phone so if you won't use headphone amplifier or a premium music phone with a quad DAC and powerful amp like the LG V-series I suggest you stick to the T40RP because the bass is much more lovely if driven by a regular 3.5mm phone jack than the bass of the T50RP.
With a quad DAC phone or a good amp you can have a good experience with all of the TxxRP headphones, it is up to personal taste really.
Good luck and don't count the T40RP out, it is a fantastic headphone for punkrock, hardcore, metal and any energetic music while being no slouch at any music style!
Reviewed in Sweden on November 1, 2023
I like all of them but T40RP would be my pick if I only could choose one of them.
Important information:
T20RP is open.
T40RP is closed.
T50RP is semi open.
Swedish amazon have mixed the models up.
If the order says T40RP you will get T40RP but the T40RP is closed and not open as it says on swedish amazon.
Just order the right T20RP if you want open headphones and T40RP if you want closed headphones and you will be OK.
I love these headphones. The planar magnetic element is excellent and the T40RP is the perfect rock/hardcore/metal headphone in my opinion.
It is studio quality sound and a very light and comfortable headphone.
The first days the headphone will clamp pretty hard on the head and it should but soon the headband will adjust to the size of your head and feel good. Just use the headphone normally and it will adjust.
The T40RP has a lovely detailed sound without being too detailed, it is just right for every music genre I throw at it!
Don't believe reviewers saying that the T40RP is the least favourable of the three because it is purely fantastic with just the right punch.
Other reviewers suck, trust me, I got taste and style and listen to all music styles!
The T40RP can be driven with a phone and it is much better than the T50RP with just the power from a phone so if you won't use headphone amplifier or a premium music phone with a quad DAC and powerful amp like the LG V-series I suggest you stick to the T40RP because the bass is much more lovely if driven by a regular 3.5mm phone jack than the bass of the T50RP.
With a quad DAC phone or a good amp you can have a good experience with all of the TxxRP headphones, it is up to personal taste really.
Good luck and don't count the T40RP out, it is a fantastic headphone for punkrock, hardcore, metal and any energetic music while being no slouch at any music style!
Ich finde den auch besser als den TH-600. Unglaublich was der drauf hat. Einzig die Ohrpolster sind etwas dünn, aber Ersatzorpads sind bereits unterwegs.
Ich wollte aufgrund der langen Lieferzeit schon stornieren, gut das es zu dem Zeitpunkt nicht mehr storniert werden konnte.