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Some Time in New York City

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Track Listings

Disc: 1

1 Woman Is The Nigger Of The World
2 Sisters, O Sisters
3 Attica State
4 Born In a Prison
5 New York City
6 Sunday Bloody Sunday
7 The Luck Of The Irish
8 John Sinclair
9 Angela
10 We're All Water

Disc: 2

1 Cold Turkey (live)
2 Don't Worry Kyoko (live)
3 Well (Baby Please Don't Go) (live)
4 Jamrag (live)
5 Scumbag (live)
6 Au (live)

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  • Is Discontinued By Manufacturer ‏ : ‎ No
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Product Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 5.16 x 5.67 x 0.28 inches; 2.82 ounces
  • Manufacturer ‏ : ‎ Capitol
  • Item model number ‏ : ‎ 8595072
  • Original Release Date ‏ : ‎ 2010
  • Date First Available ‏ : ‎ August 25, 2010
  • Label ‏ : ‎ Capitol
  • ASIN ‏ : ‎ B003Y8YXG2
  • Country of Origin ‏ : ‎ USA
  • Number of discs ‏ : ‎ 2
  • Customer Reviews:
    4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars 304 ratings

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I bought this album after seeing a documentary about 'Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention'. John Lennon and Yoko Ono were guests that Frank Zappa had invited to play along with him and 'The Mothers of Invention' in concert at the Fillmore East on June 6th, 1971. John Lennon and Yoko Ono participated in only five songs towards the end of the show. Zappa then gave Lennon a duplicate copy of the 16 track tape of their participatory performance as a gesture of good will to keep in his personal files. Lennon, along with Phil Spector, immediately remixed (some vocal and instrument tracks by 'The Mothers' were removed), some new instrumentation was dubbed in, and some of the songs were renamed. These songs were then released on the album 'Sometime in New York City' in 1972. If you read the booklet that comes with that album, you'd think 'Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention' were simply Lennon and Ono's back-up band. They even stole the album cover that 'Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention' used on their release of that show called 'The Mothers: Live at the Filmore East, 1971' and included a scribbled upon version of it in the 'Sometime in New York City' booklet. Twenty years later, Frank Zappa release these five songs in their original form (and titles) on the album entitled 'Playground Psychotics'. I bought 'Sometime in New York City' to see if the documentary was telling the truth, it was...too bad John Lennon and Yoko Ono couldn't. I give 'Sometime in New York City' one star for having no class. I wish there was a 'No Star' option.
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Reviewed in the United States on January 5, 2022
I'm giving 5 Stars for the music on the studio disc. That's all I can do. I remember enjoying the live disc, but I didn't receive it with the CD. It was packaged incomplete. Unfortunately it's now a year+ since I received it. I'd advise anyone purchasing the 2010 2-Disc version to check it out promptly. I see another reviewer received theirs with 2 Live CDs. One was mine, lol. Anyway: the 2010 is the one to have. Until they release the next version...and believe me, one IS on the way.
Reviewed in the United States on January 9, 2014
Okay, so I'm a very weird person, but that can't be the only reason why I love this seemingly universally hated record. Of course, it's a time capsule, it was meant to be. But that doesn't mean they didn't rock their hippie tucuses off, or boogie them off, or lilt them off in lullabies so gorgeous you could fall asleep and dream of people's revolution. There's so much great music on this record -- the insanely lush, floaty arrangement that propels the blunt apercus of the opening track, the dynamic all-out break that comes in "Angela," the funny headlong rush of "We're All Water," the eerie perfect chord changes in "Born in a Prison." After all, "Imagine" now fits cozily in with the money-grubbing world of American Idol. This warped, righteous shocker never will.
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Reviewed in the United States on February 26, 2014
This is unbridled John Lennon. As such it is uncompromising, but also shows why The Beatles hung together so well. When one removes the other 3 balancing forces, each vector streaks across the landscape unchecked. This was a plus -- even a necessity -- for his first post-Beatles solo album, "The Plastic Ono Band". Here, it veers off course a ways (as does most all of Paul's post-1974 work), not because of its protest quality, but because the lyrics seem a little less well-thought-out than we are accustomed to with John. Yoko is more coherent than usual, here, but I feel she does more to get in John's way than to enhance his songwriting or delivery. Sorry, Yoko -- I know you were the love of his life...
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Reviewed in the United States on June 14, 2013
Some time ago, in 1972, John Lennon released his third solo album. Titled "Some Time in New York City," it represented a departure in some ways from John's prior solo work. As opposed to the raw, no-holds-barred, deeply personal quality of 1970's "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band," or the lyrical emotionalism that Lennon achieved on 1971's "Imagine," "Some Time" seeks direct engagement with the tendentious political landscape of the time in which the album was released (an intent reinforced by the album's newspaper-style cover design). Another key difference between "Some Time" on the one hand and "Plastic Ono Band" or "Imagine" on the other is that Yoko Ono has a more overt songwriting and singing presence than had been the case on the two earlier albums. None of these factors can be said to have been particularly conducive to the success of "Some Time in New York City." Where this album does succeed, it succeeds almost in spite of itself.

Those paradoxical and contradictory qualities of the album are apparent from the first line of the first track, "Woman Is the N----r of the World." Really, John? Was it truly necessary to take the most poisonous racial slur in existence, and to make it the centerpiece of the album's would-be hit single? I know, I know -- John and Yoko really wanted to dramatize the cruelty of sexism and gender bias throughout the world, and the use of the racial slur is meant to have an in-your-face quality, so that one can't ignore or minimize the social ills discussed by the song. But I stand with those who would say that no white person, not even John Lennon, can use that word without opening up a whole new set of problems unrelated to whatever problems said white person is trying to address. It also doesn't help that there is a disconnect between the song's serious subject matter and its jaunty delivery, with a jazzy saxophone solo reinforcing the song's bouncy tempo. Some nice minor-key work here, but I can't help thinking that the song is in large measure a mistake.

The same could be said of the following track, "Sisters, O Sisters." Let me say at the outset that I grow tired of the Yoko-bashing that is so often a feature of the critical response to John Lennon's work. I do not blame Yoko Ono for the breakup of the Beatles (notwithstanding the "I Still Blame Yoko" bumper stickers that one sees on the backs of cars from time to time), and I feel strongly that John and Yoko's relationship was their business and no one else's. That being said, I am obligated to say in candor that Yoko Ono's vocal efforts, on this album, are largely unsuccessful. On too many of the songs on this album, Yoko does not sing so much as she shouts -- sometimes on key, sometimes not. In the case of "Sisters, O Sisters," the song's potentially interesting 1950's organ sound and pro-revolution lyrics are undone by the manner in which Yoko sings the song.

"Attica State," reflecting as it does the tensions surrounding the notorious prison riot of September 1971, is discordant in style and tone, but is no doubt meant to be; its thematic suggestion -- that the conditions at the Attica prison represent the confining qualities of American society generally -- could perhaps have been developed in greater detail. "Born in a Prison," one of a number of examples on this album of John and Yoko taking different approaches to the same subject matter, is one of Yoko's better songs, but again is undone by Yoko's limited singing proficiency. In spite of some nice strings, and an appropriate quality of simplicity, the song's attempts at achieving a wistful quality are unsuccessful; and when Yoko shouts, "Born in a Prison!" it's an embarrassment.

But then the album takes a decided turn for the better, as John delivers the great, energetic, bluesy "New York City" -- the one song from this album that people still play. John's well-known love for N.Y.C. really comes through here; guitar, saxophone, and Jerry Lee Lewis-style piano work together flawlessly, and the song's numerous and specific New York references put you right there. Que pasa, New York?

The album's next two songs both deal with one of the many tragic political events of the turbulent 1970's -- the "Bloody Sunday" killings of January 1972, when 13 unarmed demonstrators in Derry/Londonderry, Northern Ireland, were shot dead by British Army paratroopers. The military-style drumming and strident saxophone set a suitably grim tone, but the song's lyrics, with lines like "It's those mothers' turn to burn", are just too damn angry. Is this the same guy who, just one year earlier, was asking that we "Imagine all the people/Living life in peace"? The name-calling does no good; nor does Yoko's off-key shouting. And the song's closing fade-out/fade-in (cf. "Strawberry Fields Forever" or "Helter Skelter") simply reminds us of times when John had his emotions a bit more under control. Northern Ireland is still the subject of interest in the following song, "The Luck of the Irish"; the song's melancholy tin-whistle is good and suitable, and John's part of the song is good and nicely autobiographical, with its references to John growing up in Liverpool while hearing about the Irish point of view on British history; but Yoko's part of the song sounds as though it comes straight out of a commercial for that green soap. I also don't like the way both of these songs oversimplify the complexities of the Northern Ireland conflict; there is plenty of blame to go around, on all sides, for the over 3500 deaths that occurred during the Troubles. But nuance is clearly not what John and Yoko are going for here.

"John Sinclair" also puts one back in the 1970's. I had to go to Wikipedia to learn his story. For a poet to receive a sentence of ten years' imprisonment for giving two marijuana joints to an undercover cop (hence the song's line "They gave him ten for two") does seem a bit extreme. I like the song's use of slide guitar, and its energy. And it's good to know that that ten-year sentence for Sinclair (who is still an actively publishing poet) was overturned by the Michigan Supreme Court. Who knows? Perhaps Lennon's activism had some influence there. The song "Angela" likewise sent me to Wikipedia, where I learned that Angela Davis, then a controversial political activist who had been arrested by the FBI on charges of kidnapping and murder, and whose activism is supported by the song, recently retired from a faculty position at the University of California Santa Cruz. How times change.

"We're All Water" is peppy and upbeat, but I wish that someone at the time could have been so good as to inform Ms. Ono that screaming and yelling are no substitute for singing. "Cold Turkey" is grim and powerful; its muted melodic line captures well the manner in which a battle against addiction can combine long periods of monotony with unexpected moments of absolute terror. As for "Don't Worry Kyoko," I appreciated the Led Zeppelin-esque guitar riff (strongly reminiscent of "Good Times Bad Times"), but it goes on forever, and Yoko's persistent screeching of "Don't worry" does not help matters. "Well Baby Please Don't Go" ("A minor, without standard blues changes") is very fine -- coolly solid, with fine guitar work.

This CD release of "Some Time in New York City" contains both sides of a Christmastime single. Yoko's "Listen the Snow Is Falling" is nice and gentle, with soft organ, and Yoko actually sings well on this song. John's "Happy Xmas (War Is Over)" is, of course, a classic; and its plea for peace, in the context of a holiday that honors the Prince of Peace, is timeless. Just how many new wars have started in the 30 years since John and Yoko sang "War is over/If you want it"? Sad to wonder about.

In short, "Some Time in New York City" is decidedly a mixed bag. Fans of John Lennon's solo work will probably want it, if only as a way of completing their collection of John's post-Beatles oeuvre. More casual fans may lose patience with the album after a while. But it certainly is a bracing plunge into the political turmoil of the early 1970's.
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Gilson Roberto de Oliveira Azevedo
5.0 out of 5 stars Rápida entrega e produto bem embalado.
Reviewed in Brazil on May 8, 2022
Apesar das músicas serem extremamente politizadas, mostrando um ativismo exagerado e até ingênuo do John, vale a pena comprar. Já tive o lp, mas essa nova edição tem uma sonoridade superior a do vinil.
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1.0 out of 5 stars No era lo que decía
Reviewed in Mexico on March 12, 2022
En la descripción mencionaba que eran dos discos al recibirlo solo venía un disco
brian johnson
5.0 out of 5 stars very good
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on May 11, 2024
very good
Peter
5.0 out of 5 stars Einfach nur gut
Reviewed in Germany on January 11, 2020
Auch in der CD Version, einfach nur gut!
CARLOS LILLO
3.0 out of 5 stars No es lo mejor, pero hay que tenerlo.
Reviewed in Spain on July 3, 2017
Uno de los discos más flojos de John Lennon. La producción es pobre y el sonido, pese a ser remasterizado, no es bueno. Sin duda alguna IMAGINE tiene una producción mucho mejor por parte de Phil Spector.
SOME TIME IN NYC mezcla temas de John y Yoko, lo que hace que la cosa no mejore. Algunas canciones son para olvidarlas. Destaco THE LUCK OF THE IRISH y alguna otra en la que las letras muy politizadas son la parte del león.

Como resumen: disco para amantes de John y para coleccionistas.
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